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  • 14 Jan 2022 9:34 AM
    Message # 12261929

    I have issues with the 'Wood window with storm' option.  I evaluated a 1938 home with original wood single-pane sash windows.  It has full frame wood insert windows that fit on the outside of the house for winter.  I consider this, for the purpose of the Tech Procedures, to be a "Wood window with storm".  However the stats (for a 23in x 36in window) look like this:

    ER-55;  R-Value: 4.68;  SHGC: 0.4521

    A modern window, Double/double with 1 coat; Low-E .20(hard); 13mm Argon; Insulating spacer; Hinged, has stats like this:

    ER-20;  R-Value: 2.76; SHGC:  0.4666

    This is causing upgrades to create negative performance gains. The 'metal window with storm' option has an ER of 63, but at least the R-Value is 1.24

    For now I am going to model this as 'Wood;double;clear;insulating;Slider with Sash'  This produces:

    ER-9;  R-value: 2.06; SHGC: 0.4560

    Any opinions on this conundrum?  Am I missing something?  Is there a better way to show clients how much window upgrades help, in a more accurate fashion?



  • 17 Jan 2022 9:18 AM
    Reply # 12270908 on 12261929

    Jeffrey,

    I would consider this method instead. There are a few legacy window types left in the Wizard that I use sometimes. Wood with wood storm is there, and comes up as R 2.06, ER 14. I would consider writing this code down and using it for wood single with storms.

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  • 19 Jan 2022 12:56 PM
    Reply # 12282173 on 12261929

    Well, it certainly seems the "Wood widow with storm" on your computer comes up with much different specs than mine.  I like your solution and it is essentially the same as one the suggested by one of my colleagues.  However, the H2K user guide says we must use the pre-defined codes.  Perhaps I have a corrupted code file?

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